MONT VERNON PLANNING BOARD
Mont Vernon, NH 03057
MEETING MINUTES – TUESDAY OCTOBER 24, 2006
AGENDA
7:00 PM Discussion regarding personnel matters
7:15 PM David R. Hall/Coach Road Associates – 21-lot open space subdivision of Map 2 Lot 6 off NH Rte.13 and Purgatory Road, Review for Approval, continued.
8:00 PM Desmarais, Mitchell, and Mason – 18-lot open space subdivision of Map 5 Lot 65 off Westgate and Kendall Hill Roads, Review for Approval, continued.
8:45 PM Mystic Brook, LLC – 19-lot open space subdivision of Map 1 Lots 57 and 58 off Old Milford Road, Review for Approval, continued.
9:30 PM Ed Hoyt Sr. – Lot line adjustment of Map 6 Lots 27 and 28 off Francestown Turnpike, Review for Acceptance.
10:00 PM Adjournment
Seated: Vicky Arico, Annette Immorlica, chairperson; and Tom McKinney
Selectmen’s Representative: Gerry Griffin
Alternate: John Quinlan
Absent: Jim Bird, Leslie Formby and Kevin Stewart
7:00 PM Immorlica called the meeting to order and went through mail and announcements.
7:04 PM McKinney moved to go into non-public session. Members present were Vicky Arico, Gerry Griffin, Annette Immorlica, Tom McKinney and John Quinlan. The board discussed personnel matters.
7:09 PM Arico motioned to return to public session. McKinney seconded. All were in favor. The board returned to public session. Immorlica stated that the budget was due to the Selectmen November 6, 2006 and asked if the board had any comments. Arico asked Immorlica if she felt she deserved some compensation for all of the hard work she has done as chairperson. Immorlica thanked Arico but stated that it was her contribution to the community and she really enjoyed it.
7:15 PM David R. Hall/Coach Road Associates – 21-lot open space subdivision of Map 2 Lot 6 off NH Rte.13 and Purgatory Road, Review for Approval, continued. Immorlica recused herself. McKinney took over as chairperson. McKinney stated that the board received an October 16, 2006 letter from DES and asked if anyone has comments. The board did not have any comments. Ken Clinton, of Meridian Land Services, was present. Clinton stated that their site specific permit was granted the day before, October 23, 2006. McKinney stated that he wanted to go through open checklist items from the Vollmer August 22, 2006 review and Meridian’s comments of October 5, 2006. The board discussed frontage requirements Item no. 1, the Meridian letter of April 7, 2006.
7:24 PM Arico moved to waive the conventional frontage requirements of Section I-305.3(c), since the applicant will keep the 50’ separation. Quinlan seconded. Immorlica asked who would monitor it if someone encroaches upon the 50’ line. Arico responded that the building inspector would do it. The board voted on the motion. Griffin abstained. Arico, McKinney and Quinlan were in favor. The motion passed. The board continued to review the checklist Meridian Item No. 4, Section II-704.2(c). 7:27 PM Arico moved to allow the applicant to use HDPE pipe. Quinlan seconded. All were in favor. The motion passed. 7:28 PM On Meridian Item No.2, Section III-605.1(b)(i)(8), Griffin moved to grant a waiver for the size of the locus scale. Arico seconded. All were in favor. The motion passed. McKinney stated that the applicant requested a waiver for the cross sections Meridian Item 3, Section III-605.1(b)(i)(15). Griffin stated that the Selectmen would like to continue to see cross sections. Clinton stated that he requested this waiver before hearing Griffin speak to how the Selectmen use them although he personally does not see the need for it. 7:34 PM Arico moved to deny the waiver request for cross sections. Griffin seconded. All were in favor. The motion passed.
Clinton went through the checklist items that he had open. Clinton stated that they will be talking to Kevin Pomeroy about the cistern and that DOT has granted them a permit. McKinney stated that they need to get Pomeroy’s recommendation on III-415 in writing. Item III-301.2 was closed, as the NH Division of Historical Resources letter has been received by the board. On Item III-605.1(b)(i)(TT), Clinton will add a note to the plan. On Review comment and Meridian Item No. 3, McKinney requested that Clinton identify on the plan that Single Family housing is being provided in this open subdivision. Clinton agreed to do this in their plan update for the next board work session. Clinton stated that they should be getting their wetlands permit soon and then the stated subdivision will follow. Clinton stated that Bancroft Circle and Ingalls Circle are possible road names and added that they are on the Selectmen’s agenda to discuss road names as well as bonding. Clinton provided the board with an April 11, 2006 Meridian letter, with the proposed street names. The board discussed whether the legal documents had been sent to Atty. Drescher for review.
7:53 PM Arico moved to authorize the administrative assistant to work with Ken Clinton to make sure that the board has the proper documents and forward them to Atty. Drescher as soon as possible. Quinlan seconded. All were in favor. The motion passed. The board and applicant continued to discuss and close open items on the checklist. Item No. 9 of the Meridian’s comments of October 5, 2006, was checked off, as no excavation is required. The applicant agreed to continue with the application at the next hearing on November 28, 2006.
8:05 PM Desmarais, Mitchell and Mason – 18-lot open space subdivision of Map 5 Lot 65 off Westgate and Kendall Hill Roads, Review for Approval, continued. Immorlica was reseated and took over as chairperson. Ken Clinton, of Meridian Land Services, was present. Clinton stated that he and Chad Branon, of Meridian, had met with Mike Leach, of Vollmer, on October 11, 2006. Clinton stated that they primarily discussed engineering related issues. Clinton stated that Vollmer felt the slope of the preexisting road bed at the transition of Westgate Road was too steep and felt that they should shift the road. Clinton stated that was the biggest comment from Vollmer. Clinton stated that they will meet with the Selectmen to discuss the road improvements and the cistern.
Clinton submitted written waiver requests. The first request regarded dead end street length. 8:20 PM McKinney moved to waive the dead end street length. Griffin seconded. Quinlan abstained. Arico, Immorlica, Griffin and McKinney were in favor. The motion passed. Immorlica stated that they had requested a waiver for conventional frontage requirements. Arico asked if the board has the same assurance that they will keep the 50’ separation line. Clinton responded yes. 8:22 PM Griffin moved to waive the conventional frontage requirements. McKinney seconded. Quinlan abstained. Arico, Immorlica, Griffin and McKinney were in favor. The motion passed. 8:23 PM Griffin moved to waive the scale of the locus map. McKinney seconded. All were in favor. The motion passed. Clinton stated that they would strike the waiver request for the cross sections. 8:24 PM Griffin moved to allow the applicant to use HDPE pipe. Arico seconded. All were in favor. The motion passed. Immorlica continued to go through open checklist items. Clinton submitted a conceptual plan with houses and driveways. The board was satisfied with it. Immorlica continued with the checklist. Clinton stated that they have parking at the end of Westgate for non-residents and the beginning of a potential trail. Arico asked if they will be flagging the trail. Steve Desmarais, the applicant, stated they will flag it. The applicant agreed to continue with the application at the next hearing on November 28, 2006.
8:53 PM Mystic Brook, LLC – 19-lot open space subdivision of Map 1 Lots 57 and 58 off Old Milford Road, Review for Approval, continued. Chad Branon, of Meridian Land Services, was present. Branon submitted a revised waiver request that was approved at the last hearing as well as a letter from the state about the community water system. Branon stated that he met with Vollmer on October 11, 2006 and is in the process of updating the plans. Branon stated that the site specific permit and state subdivision approval are still pending. Immorlica began going through the open checklist items. Branon submitted a conceptual plan. Branon stated that there is no requirement that they show a physical setback line. Branon stated that the 50’ separation between houses in noted on the plan and added that Mystic Brook will be developing the lots themselves. Immorlica questioned whether there is dry access to the open space lot. Branon stated that it is a forested wetland and the open space lot can be accessed through there. Immorlica stated that they need a letter from the Fire Department regarding the cistern and road. Immorlica asked about the adjacent streets. Merrit Peasely, of Mystic Brook, stated that they have walked the road with Bucky Grugnale, of the highway department, and they will be working with him. Immorlica asked about an archeological survey. Branon stated that they have their wetlands permit and no resources were found therefore no study is needed. Immorlica reminded the applicant that they need to go to the Selectmen for bonding. The applicant agreed to continue with the application at the next hearing on November 28, 2006.
9:35 PM Ed Hoyt – lot line adjustment of Map 6 Lots 27 and 28 off Francestown Turnpike, Review for Acceptance. Ed Hoyt was present. Hoyt stated that it is a lot line change for an existing well. Hoyt stated that his well is currently on Jean Hillsgrove’s land, previously his father’s land. Arico questioned the frontage after the change. Griffin stated there will be sufficient frontage. The board discussed the location of the wells and septics. The board looked over the plan and felt it was pretty straightforward.
9:50 PM McKinney moved to conditionally approve the lot line change with the following conditions – the shed is removed before final approval, one mylar and 5 paper copies are submitted, show septic beds and bounds are set and changed to granite. Quinlan seconded. All were in favor. The applicant agreed to continue with the application at the next hearing on November 28, 2006.
9:53 PM McKinney moved to adjourn the meeting. Griffin seconded. All were in favor. The meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Angela Wilson, Administrative Assistant